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do you think mcconnell and boehner are in the mood to cooperate with president obama? >> i do believe they're in a mood to cooperate. they've talked -- and speaker boehner's talked for a long time about a grand bargain, about a big deal, about trying to find some major solution going forward. but the senate hasn't acted on anything, so i think we have to be careful on just placing the blame on mcconnell or boehner. without adding in to this mix, senator harry reid who is running the senate and have failed to act on anything yet. >> will you support whatever short-term deal the republican leadership supports? >> i don't know what i'm going to support yet until i see it. the previous congressman you had on, raul, interesting enough, his office is right next to mine in longworth. the fact of the matter is we're going to have to find a place to come together. that the president has offered a 7% solution for a 100% problem. i was struck by the fact that not a single democrat supported speaker boehner's plan "b" when that was actually nancy pelosi's solution which was to rai
do you think mcconnell and boehner are in the mood to cooperate with president obama? >> i do believe they're in a mood to cooperate. they've talked -- and speaker boehner's talked for a long time about a grand bargain, about a big deal, about trying to find some major solution going forward. but the senate hasn't acted on anything, so i think we have to be careful on just placing the blame on mcconnell or boehner. without adding in to this mix, senator harry reid who is running the...
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. >> i really feel obama administration should get up to the plate and deal with it. >> as far as white people stole ththe indians land hundreds of years ago, the government signed treaties and that's why washington sends billions of dollars to indian tripe tribes every year. everybody thinks the government owes them something. it's odd in that no group has been more helped by government than the american indians and no group does worse. maybe it's the government. >> ben chaz is a member of a tribe that doesn't get special government help. and yet. >> the area where you live looks different from indian reservations. these mansions look like english manors. >> ian take you to one neighborhood where my people are from and show you nicer homes than a whole sioux reservation. >> this is not casino money. no special deal for your tribe. >> oh, no. in my tribe, woe -- we don't have casinos. we have 12 banks. >> he says his tribe does well because the federal government does not recognize them as a sovereign tribe though their congressman wants to change that. >> it's time for discrimination t
. >> i really feel obama administration should get up to the plate and deal with it. >> as far as white people stole ththe indians land hundreds of years ago, the government signed treaties and that's why washington sends billions of dollars to indian tripe tribes every year. everybody thinks the government owes them something. it's odd in that no group has been more helped by government than the american indians and no group does worse. maybe it's the government. >> ben chaz...
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. >>> a final meeting between president obama and congressional leaders to hammer out a last-minute deal towards the so called -- to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff has finished. john boehner was at the white house today trying to reach an agreement to avoid hundreds of billions of dollars of tax increases and spending cuts. no statement is expected anytime soon. we go live now to washington to war correspondent, ben. >> all of the participants at this meeting left without a word. i don't think we will hear from them the rest of the day. there is a great deal at stake and very little time left. it has been reported that president obama presented a plan to increase taxes on income over a quarter million dollars per year, as part of the deficit reduction plan to deal with american debt. he would probably say to the congressional leaders that need to figure out a way to get it through, but i think the expectations in washington of a deal are low with only three, four days left until the new year and the media tax hikes and spending cuts taking and -- kicking in. >> that means perhaps headi
. >>> a final meeting between president obama and congressional leaders to hammer out a last-minute deal towards the so called -- to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff has finished. john boehner was at the white house today trying to reach an agreement to avoid hundreds of billions of dollars of tax increases and spending cuts. no statement is expected anytime soon. we go live now to washington to war correspondent, ben. >> all of the participants at this meeting left without a...
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obama leaves office. this is the time to deal with this issue. we've been kicking it down the road ten years. we promised the nation in 2011 under the budget deal with the sequesters we would not let this get away from us. we shouldn't this time. for mr. obama to suggest i've cut a trillion in spending because he saved money on the wars in afghanistan is gimmicks. they a work. >> i have to be honest, it's both sides. it strikes me these lawmakers on either side don't have a real fix to what we're looking at, the national debt, screaming out of control. we're going to exceed that limit on monday night. >> i wouldn't disagree but look at the facts. we did have a republican controlled congress that passed a bill. if reid didn't like the bill, let it go for debate. let his senate vote it down and say no, we're not going to accept these conditions. >> let me ask you this, then. interesting question. president obama gets his own deal, sends it over to the republicans, they have the same dilemma. >> well, they may. but i think you would at least see a f
obama leaves office. this is the time to deal with this issue. we've been kicking it down the road ten years. we promised the nation in 2011 under the budget deal with the sequesters we would not let this get away from us. we shouldn't this time. for mr. obama to suggest i've cut a trillion in spending because he saved money on the wars in afghanistan is gimmicks. they a work. >> i have to be honest, it's both sides. it strikes me these lawmakers on either side don't have a real fix to...
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. >>> a final meeting between president obama and congressional leaders to hammer out a last-minute deal towards the so called -- to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff has finished. john boehner was at the white house today, trying to reach an agreement to avoid hundreds of billions of dollars of tax increases and spending cuts. no statement is expected anytime soon. we go live now to washington to war correspondent, ben. >> all of the participants at this meeting left without a word. i don't think we will hear from them the rest of the day. there is a great deal at stake and very little time left. it has been reported that president obama presented a plan to increase taxes on income over a quarter million dollars per year, as part of the deficit reduction plan to deal with american debt. he would probably say to the congressional leaders that need to figure out a way to get it through, but i think the expectations in washington of a deal are low with only three, four days left until the new year and the media tax hikes and spending cuts taking and -- kicking in. >> that means perhaps head
. >>> a final meeting between president obama and congressional leaders to hammer out a last-minute deal towards the so called -- to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff has finished. john boehner was at the white house today, trying to reach an agreement to avoid hundreds of billions of dollars of tax increases and spending cuts. no statement is expected anytime soon. we go live now to washington to war correspondent, ben. >> all of the participants at this meeting left without a...
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. >>> a final meeting between president obama and congressional leaders to hammer out a last-minute deal towards the so called -- to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff has finished. john boehner was at the white house today, trying to reach an agreement to avoid hundreds of billions of dollars of tax increases and spending cuts. no statement is expected anytime soon. we go live now to washington to war correspondent, ben. >> all of the participants at this meeting left without a word. i don't think we will hear from them the rest of the day. there is a great deal at stake and very little time left. it has been reported that president obama presented a plan to increase taxes on income over a quarter million dollars per year, as part of the deficit reduction plan to deal with american debt. he would probably say to the congressional leaders that need to figure out a way to get it through, but i think the expectations in washington of a deal are low with only three, four days left until the new year and the media tax hikes and spending cuts taking and -- kicking in. >> that means perhaps head
. >>> a final meeting between president obama and congressional leaders to hammer out a last-minute deal towards the so called -- to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff has finished. john boehner was at the white house today, trying to reach an agreement to avoid hundreds of billions of dollars of tax increases and spending cuts. no statement is expected anytime soon. we go live now to washington to war correspondent, ben. >> all of the participants at this meeting left without a...
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to drink some eggnog, sing some careless, maybe reached the fiscal cliff deal. how speaker john boehner is doing damage control on their plan b mess. before heading out for the holidays. even as americans are facing more than $500 billion in tax hikes coming on january 1. with more on this, we have peter barnes, fox business sr. washington correspondent. what did the president have to say moments ago? >> john boehner did say that this would be a cooling off period. maybe they would have some time to reflect here. the president said that he did speak on the phone to speaker john boehner this afternoon. he also had majority leader harry reid to avoid the fiscal cliff and figure out a passport. he said he is ready and willing to try to get a compromise package done. all at once or stuff like that. but we'll have to wait until after the holiday. the president planning to hold out for the holidays, and congress is out for the holidays. the president saying that putting pressure began on republicans, house republicans, to least extend tax cuts for the middle class. th
to drink some eggnog, sing some careless, maybe reached the fiscal cliff deal. how speaker john boehner is doing damage control on their plan b mess. before heading out for the holidays. even as americans are facing more than $500 billion in tax hikes coming on january 1. with more on this, we have peter barnes, fox business sr. washington correspondent. what did the president have to say moments ago? >> john boehner did say that this would be a cooling off period. maybe they would have...
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so to me, the president actually wants an argument more than a deal. he could have been helpful and instrumental in getting things done every six months to go through a budget crisis with president obama, he could figure out a way to lead and bring people together earlier. they can't call in mitch mcdonnell until the 26th and complain he was there at the last minute. i think there's a lot to be done to improve legislative affairs at the white house and would ultimately help president obama. >> and said about that, but mcconnell is still is late, he could have imposed himself, and not the way he does it. here is the fundamental problem. leaving aside the policy issue which i know is important to you all. if i get down to politics on bumper stickers, you're holding all of this up, including people's tax cuts it defend millionaires, that's all we have to say. >> and the democrats all agree that the bush tax cuts were the-- were good for the economy. that's had an amazing concussion that you're making-- >> and you're making -- let me finish here. the argum
so to me, the president actually wants an argument more than a deal. he could have been helpful and instrumental in getting things done every six months to go through a budget crisis with president obama, he could figure out a way to lead and bring people together earlier. they can't call in mitch mcdonnell until the 26th and complain he was there at the last minute. i think there's a lot to be done to improve legislative affairs at the white house and would ultimately help president obama....
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the obsession, getting a deal at the very last minute. others kept saying well, you just watch, i know it looks bad now but if you wait until the stroke of midnight, we'll be there. indeed we are a, but i think th rational people say why is this that we do this at 11:59, and have terrible consequences. >> all right, ezra klein, stand by if you will. let's bring in "huffington post" ryan grim, i know you were just over joyed hearing this. but after all of this back and forth for so long, it is coming down literally to midnight. >> sure, and ezra is right. that is exactly when we would have expected it. either right at midnight or -- that is how they get things done. and the reason they do that, is because what they're trying to do is broadly unpopular. people don't support austerity. there is a certain type of industrial sector that like s austerity, but that is about it. so in order to inflict it on the people, so to speak, they have to create these artificial deadlines, saying if we don't hurt you a little bit right now then we'll have t
the obsession, getting a deal at the very last minute. others kept saying well, you just watch, i know it looks bad now but if you wait until the stroke of midnight, we'll be there. indeed we are a, but i think th rational people say why is this that we do this at 11:59, and have terrible consequences. >> all right, ezra klein, stand by if you will. let's bring in "huffington post" ryan grim, i know you were just over joyed hearing this. but after all of this back and forth for...
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in separate calls with president obama. so president obama has been on the phone here at the white house with the democratic leaders over in capitol hill, and discussed this deal with them, and both of the top democrats in congress have agreed to the terms of this deal so it looked like they have an agreement to proceed and we have something that congress, boat houses of congress can move forward with if biden doesn't get too much resistance tonight and speaker boehner agrees to put it on the floor in the coming days. >> let's bring in a democratic senator, jeff merkley of oregon is joining us. you're getting ready to go into this democratic caucus meeting with the vice president, joe biden. what are you hearing right now? are you on board? >> we haven't heard the detail said, but there's three main things we want to nail down. first is fairness to people who versus those who are best off in society. the second is are we looking down the road to another fiscal cliff, such as sequestering or the dent ceiling kicking in a few
in separate calls with president obama. so president obama has been on the phone here at the white house with the democratic leaders over in capitol hill, and discussed this deal with them, and both of the top democrats in congress have agreed to the terms of this deal so it looked like they have an agreement to proceed and we have something that congress, boat houses of congress can move forward with if biden doesn't get too much resistance tonight and speaker boehner agrees to put it on the...
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ed payne has theestory. 3 in what is seen as a last-minnte attempt to reach a deal, president obama mmets t the white house with senate majority leader harry reid,, pelosi, senate minority leader miich mcconnell and houue &psppaker john bbehner. they have only our days to reach an agreement... or the u-s economy will go over thee so-called "fiscal cllff." that's when automattc tax increasse and ssendinngcuts would take effect. reaching a deal beeooe then on't be easy. becauseeright now, both high-stakes political blame game. we are here in washingtonnworking while the members of the house of reeresentatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccerrand bbsketball and doing all kinds oo things. they should be here. i told the prreident i'd beehappy to look at whateeer he proposes but the truth is we're coming up against a hardd &pthis is a conversation we &pbbsh-era tax cuts to everyonne except those americans making year. many republicans rrmain - against any tax incceases. most americans just wann sommthing to be done. ppople are just tired of everyone to come together. i
ed payne has theestory. 3 in what is seen as a last-minnte attempt to reach a deal, president obama mmets t the white house with senate majority leader harry reid,, pelosi, senate minority leader miich mcconnell and houue &psppaker john bbehner. they have only our days to reach an agreement... or the u-s economy will go over thee so-called "fiscal cllff." that's when automattc tax increasse and ssendinngcuts would take effect. reaching a deal beeooe then on't be easy....
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i think for obama, there were also three challenges. one parallel to mitt romney rallying his face, he had to rally the liberal base as well. there were concerns that liberals were a little disenchanted or let down by the progress or lack of progress they thought had been made over his first term and whether the liberals were back had enthusiastically. he had to mobilize key groups that helped him in 2008 but are not necessarily traditionally strong turnout sekhmet, for too early young voters and minority voters. i think most people thought and we certainly thought getting that level of engagement, if not equal to 2008, at least more than the historical norm would be critical to him. a third one is the economy. and, it will some extent be held accountable for economic circles the of this. he was facing continued on of one of levels nationwide and a lot of public discouragement about the improvement of the economy. the hurdle for him was trying to not get taken down by that problem as previous incumbents often have been. one thing that i
i think for obama, there were also three challenges. one parallel to mitt romney rallying his face, he had to rally the liberal base as well. there were concerns that liberals were a little disenchanted or let down by the progress or lack of progress they thought had been made over his first term and whether the liberals were back had enthusiastically. he had to mobilize key groups that helped him in 2008 but are not necessarily traditionally strong turnout sekhmet, for too early young voters...
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this deals with the issue of taxes, something that president obama has been talking since 2008. campaigned on this issue in 2012, and the third part will be that march trifecta, when you are going to have both the budget to deal with as well as the debt ceiling and the sequester issue, which will come back again, those are some of the details my colleague, chuck todd, gotten from inside that meeting with the senate democratic caucus. we expect president obama to be briefed on that meeting as well. vice president biden played a key role in negotiations. i am getting details from democratic source who's say the president has played an important role as well. working the phones. apparently last night after vice president biden had spoken to mcconnell, he, the president, a number of staffers met from 1:00 a.m. until 1:45 and sort of hammered out the final details of this deal and then their staffers were up until way past 3:30 this morning. this is something that has been going on overnight while a lot of people have been sloping on the white house and that is the latest we've been
this deals with the issue of taxes, something that president obama has been talking since 2008. campaigned on this issue in 2012, and the third part will be that march trifecta, when you are going to have both the budget to deal with as well as the debt ceiling and the sequester issue, which will come back again, those are some of the details my colleague, chuck todd, gotten from inside that meeting with the senate democratic caucus. we expect president obama to be briefed on that meeting as...
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president obama meeting with the leaders at the white house. misreporting going on that the president had a new deal, looked like progress was made. no. the president had the same deal that republicans walked away from about a week ago, if you call it a deal, the deal is that he won't tax people higher above the 400,000 mark. shibani: the meeting still going on, rich edson live at the white house with the latest details. what do we know now, rich? >> what we got from an administration official, that president obama offered what he detailed in the speech a week ago keeping tax rates where they are for families earning less than $250,000 a year, extending long term unemployment insurance policy, and that bit of detail he gave a week ago in a speech is basically derived from the larger deficit proposal offered over, really, the last couple years as president of the united states. we're waiting whether or not in the meeting, lasting an hour at the white house, started at 3:10, is whether or not they made progress towards changing that proposal in a
president obama meeting with the leaders at the white house. misreporting going on that the president had a new deal, looked like progress was made. no. the president had the same deal that republicans walked away from about a week ago, if you call it a deal, the deal is that he won't tax people higher above the 400,000 mark. shibani: the meeting still going on, rich edson live at the white house with the latest details. what do we know now, rich? >> what we got from an administration...
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this deal. he says it's not good enough in part because the tax rates are on those who are making $400,000 or more, $450,000 or more if they're couples, and not on those who make $250,000 or more. that is the level that president obama campaigned on. he said folks who make $250,000 or more should pay more in taxes. richard trumka expressing concern tonight that this will ultimately wind up taking a larger cut into spending than democrats will be comfortable with. so that is some of the criticism on the left. i imagine vice president biden have l have to answer some questions about that when he heads over to the hill. but as kelly mentioned, he has been one of the key negotiators in this entire process. remember, on saturday, milissa, these negotiations had all but stalled. and that is the point at which minority leader mcconnell picked up the phone, called biden, asked him to engage in these negotiations. he did. he is of course a veteran of the senate. few people understand how the inner works
this deal. he says it's not good enough in part because the tax rates are on those who are making $400,000 or more, $450,000 or more if they're couples, and not on those who make $250,000 or more. that is the level that president obama campaigned on. he said folks who make $250,000 or more should pay more in taxes. richard trumka expressing concern tonight that this will ultimately wind up taking a larger cut into spending than democrats will be comfortable with. so that is some of the...
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president obama and congressional leaders with trying to come up with this last-minute deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, the massive tax increases and spending cuts to take place in four days. the president and vice president will be meeting with house speaker john boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority leader harry reid, and minority leader mitch mcconnell. and watching all this, jessica yellin live at the white house. jess, what do we think is going to happen here? >> reporter: well, based on the expectations around town, the thought is the president and democrats will lay out an alternative, scaled-down proposal. and there will be discussions about what could be in the details of a proposal they could vote on, in theory, this weekend. the ideal outcome would be all the members agree to the terms of that deal. and then the two senators in the room agree that they can get their parties to bring it to a vote with no one filibustering it. and then on the house side, speaker boehner would agree that he will put it on the house floor for a vote on monday. and the
president obama and congressional leaders with trying to come up with this last-minute deal to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff, the massive tax increases and spending cuts to take place in four days. the president and vice president will be meeting with house speaker john boehner, minority leader nancy pelosi, senate majority leader harry reid, and minority leader mitch mcconnell. and watching all this, jessica yellin live at the white house. jess, what do we think is going to happen here?...
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. >> president obama is cutting his holiday vacation sure to come back and work on a deal. any deal may be a short-term fix. president obama will be leaving forwarmth of yhawaii washington. there is no specific deal on the table. democrats blame republicans for not agreeing to end tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. >> we're not going to let the rich pay one dime more. there is something awfully wrong with that picture. the american public is seeing that. >> republicans will not agree. they see there may be room for compromise. >> i know i am not in the majority and the red states annett -- in the senate. we have to sit down and hammer something out. >> if no deal is reached, americans will see their income taxes go up. 2 million peoplwill lose their jobless benefits. $110 billion in spending cuts will hit federal agencies. analysts predict fewer companies will hire. >> that level of activity will translate into consumption, lack of business investment, supporting as moving toward an economic contraction. with only the senate returning thursday, president obama will like
. >> president obama is cutting his holiday vacation sure to come back and work on a deal. any deal may be a short-term fix. president obama will be leaving forwarmth of yhawaii washington. there is no specific deal on the table. democrats blame republicans for not agreeing to end tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. >> we're not going to let the rich pay one dime more. there is something awfully wrong with that picture. the american public is seeing that. >> republicans...
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see, in this market, it fell down after obama got reelected, but then it's been working its way back up. the fact is that i think a deal will get done and the key part is avoiding incomes under 250,000 and that's probably what they're going do. >> why is that market participant or are you speaking politically there? >> no, i'm speaking as a market participant because the spending for income for people under 250,000 in income is an important economy and that part of the economic spectrum and what they have in their pocket affects what they spend. >> and i get your point. we're a consumer-driven economy. broadway an kelly, your assessment about what happens if we don't get a deal? what happens in the markets? >> i think you saw it this morning and it looked like we're doing a full cliff dive and the market started to tank. i agree with the consumer. look at the consumer con if ied thens morning and that was driving this economy. we had consumer confidence at five-year highs and it was awful and all due to this uncertainty over the cliff. so if we can get some kind of deal that would be
see, in this market, it fell down after obama got reelected, but then it's been working its way back up. the fact is that i think a deal will get done and the key part is avoiding incomes under 250,000 and that's probably what they're going do. >> why is that market participant or are you speaking politically there? >> no, i'm speaking as a market participant because the spending for income for people under 250,000 in income is an important economy and that part of the economic...
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president obama just getting off of air force one right now. he has already made phone calls to all of the house and senate leaders trying to get this deal done before the end of the year. senate majority leader read speaking a short time ago saying he is it appears likely we're going over the fiscal cliff. over that news we sauce starts beginning to drop and the dow industrial average down seven points. we call it a fiscal cliff and it looks like we're going off the end of this cliff. most americans will not feel the effect of this but on your first paycheck you will probably get about a 4 percent cut. because the irs does not know what at the congress is doing they're not instructing employers on what to do just yet. >> we will be back in just a couple of minutes. >> calling this developing story this morning in walnut creek. a person is dead after an officer involved shooting at an apartment complex during the early morning hours in walnut creek. will tran is there live gathering information and he done this with an update on the end destina
president obama just getting off of air force one right now. he has already made phone calls to all of the house and senate leaders trying to get this deal done before the end of the year. senate majority leader read speaking a short time ago saying he is it appears likely we're going over the fiscal cliff. over that news we sauce starts beginning to drop and the dow industrial average down seven points. we call it a fiscal cliff and it looks like we're going off the end of this cliff. most...
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that was a big deal. he was the main people surrogate for romney campaigning in the election for him to validate and say hey, this guy is doing a great job. didn't help days before the election. >> eric: big story. sandy. christie. two big stories. >> kimberly: yes. >> eric: juan, what about you, sir? actually i don't think there is any -- >> juan: i don't think there is any question. the big story of the year was the election. the big story here is the change in the way technology, media treats an election. i remember the debate. the first debate. won by romney. the way i was looking at it. obama is not doing bad. not doing great but basically you got to knock out the champ to beat him. it didn't see a knock-out. all my friends like sean hannity, i sit next two on twitter and they're scoring the debate minute by minute, everything going on in social media. in that case, romney was the winner. that's true with fundraising. each campaign raised $1 billion. how much money is that? for what? >> andrea: how c
that was a big deal. he was the main people surrogate for romney campaigning in the election for him to validate and say hey, this guy is doing a great job. didn't help days before the election. >> eric: big story. sandy. christie. two big stories. >> kimberly: yes. >> eric: juan, what about you, sir? actually i don't think there is any -- >> juan: i don't think there is any question. the big story of the year was the election. the big story here is the change in the way...
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last attempt to get a deal before midnight new year's eve. the senate is returning and will be in session tomorrow for the same purpose. senate majority leader harry reid is trying to determine what kind of bill he can get through the senate with limited republican support. meanwhile, governor neil abercrombie of hawaii tonight announced that lieutenant governor brian schatz is as fit to feel the seat of the passed senator daniel inouye. he will leave hawaii for washington tonight and is expected to be sworn in sometime tomorrow afternoon. the democrats are wasting no time in the event harry reid needs the vote to avert the fiscal cliff. but the house? a different story. speaker john boehner held a conference call with republican leadership today, and basically decided to do nothing. there are no immediate plans to return to washington. even as that decision is made, how members have 48 hours to get there. house republican leadership released a statement today reading in part, the house has acted on two bills which collectively would avert th
last attempt to get a deal before midnight new year's eve. the senate is returning and will be in session tomorrow for the same purpose. senate majority leader harry reid is trying to determine what kind of bill he can get through the senate with limited republican support. meanwhile, governor neil abercrombie of hawaii tonight announced that lieutenant governor brian schatz is as fit to feel the seat of the passed senator daniel inouye. he will leave hawaii for washington tonight and is...
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so what obama is saying, if harry reid and mcconnell do not get a deal, well, that means that a deal would signify that it is filibuster proof. they'd have a super majority. democrats have the majority so you would think why don't they just vote together, pass it and move on to the house, but the dare is that obama's saying do you really want to show to all of america, republican senators that you're going filibuster a bill and everybody's taxes will go up? how do you explain that when there are -- when there is a majority around who can fas? that's a pretty interesting dare that obama put out there. >> thank you, it's like a little school house rock on saturday afternoon here on msnbc. perry, if mitch mcconnell does make a deal, how does he sell that deal in kentucky and the reddest of red states, mind you? >> i think he can and the reason is, like i said, i think any deal he signs on to will be a deal 100, 120 house republicans will sign to. he's not going sign a deal by himself and he'll sign a deal that's acceptable to some conservatives and mitch mock connell has a huge amount o
so what obama is saying, if harry reid and mcconnell do not get a deal, well, that means that a deal would signify that it is filibuster proof. they'd have a super majority. democrats have the majority so you would think why don't they just vote together, pass it and move on to the house, but the dare is that obama's saying do you really want to show to all of america, republican senators that you're going filibuster a bill and everybody's taxes will go up? how do you explain that when there...
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we're dealing with tens of trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities, in four years obama has done nothing on entitlement reform. nothing for four years. what has he done? chirped about raising taxes on rich people. raising taxes on rich people is what obama talks about instead of doing his job. there are two costs to this. one, if you take money out of savings and investment, which is what you're doing with this, it doesn't help, it reduces the incentives to save, invest and work and the other thing you do is you never get to reform government entitlements. >> that's not causal. >> it is, absolutely. >> that's not really. >> you live in new york i live in d.c., washington, this is all causal. the reason he's talking about tax increases is to avoid the conversation and dealing with spending restraints. that's why obama does what he does. >> the reason i doubt that, grover, is because we've all done the math and we all absolutely agree on the math that you can't get out of the deficit hole we're in by taxing rich people even if you tax them at 100%. everybody know knows that. so whe
we're dealing with tens of trillions of dollars in unfunded liabilities, in four years obama has done nothing on entitlement reform. nothing for four years. what has he done? chirped about raising taxes on rich people. raising taxes on rich people is what obama talks about instead of doing his job. there are two costs to this. one, if you take money out of savings and investment, which is what you're doing with this, it doesn't help, it reduces the incentives to save, invest and work and the...
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. >> president obama is optimistic a deal can still be reached but at the same time he acknowledged there might not be time so he scaled back his goals to focus on the middle class tax cut and extended benefits. a democrat said yesterday a larger deal would not be all that hard to reach. >> what we ought to do is take speaker boehner's last offer the president's last offer and split the difference. that would be a package of $2.6 trillion. you couple that with the 1.1 trillion that has been done that would be close to the 4 trillion to stabilize the debt and begin to bring it down. >>> and if no action is taken by the end of the year taxes go up for everyone. 2 million people lose unemployment benefits and automatic spending cuts could kick in. >> have a great christmas eve. >> oo it is time to entertain this. bethany frankel and herp husband of two years announced they are calling it quits. frankel and jason hopy say they are separating. they have a 2-year-old daughter. the hobbit staying put as number one in the box office taking in $36.7 million. jack richard debuted in second place. o
. >> president obama is optimistic a deal can still be reached but at the same time he acknowledged there might not be time so he scaled back his goals to focus on the middle class tax cut and extended benefits. a democrat said yesterday a larger deal would not be all that hard to reach. >> what we ought to do is take speaker boehner's last offer the president's last offer and split the difference. that would be a package of $2.6 trillion. you couple that with the 1.1 trillion that...
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friday though, president obama said that he was optimistic that the two sides could reach a deal. this morning, he sounded less positive though. >> if, you know, if people start seeing that on january 1st, this problem still has not been solved, that we haven't seen the kind of deficit reduction that we could have had, had the republicans been willing to take the deal they gave them, and if they say that people's taxes have gone up which means consumer spending will go down. >> and keep in mind that the senate is the first hurdle. any deal has to pass the house. we are not into the senate yet and the republican speaker john boehner plablamed the crisis one president saying he the one who has never found a way to say yes. >> so you are in new york and i'm in atlanta, and we get to washington now, because the senior congressional correspondent dana bash is closely following the negotiations from capitol hill, and dana, you have been there and talking to people, and where are we on this? >> well, the senate majority leader harry reid was on the floor moments ago saying that the senat
friday though, president obama said that he was optimistic that the two sides could reach a deal. this morning, he sounded less positive though. >> if, you know, if people start seeing that on january 1st, this problem still has not been solved, that we haven't seen the kind of deficit reduction that we could have had, had the republicans been willing to take the deal they gave them, and if they say that people's taxes have gone up which means consumer spending will go down. >> and...
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can they make a deal or can they do their jobs or is this just more political drama? >> we want an agreement. >> the count down is midnight. the start of a new year. >> we are going over the cliff because frankly i believe it's what the president wants. >> the american people are waiting for the ball to drop, but it's not going to be a good drop. >> but we have no takers. >> every republican, every democrat ought to be here. >> the phone never raining. >> they should negotiate a plan. they shouldn't have the mine are in plan, they should have the biglan. >> here we are five days from the new year, and we might finally start talking. >> the republicans are sitting there with a nuclear weapon. they have the debt ceiling coming up. they can use that as part of this negotiation. >> what is going on here? >> the president called me and probably called others last night. my impression is he would like to see if we can move forward. >> you can't legislate with yourself. >> the breaking news of the moment is that the house republican leadership is calling its members back for
can they make a deal or can they do their jobs or is this just more political drama? >> we want an agreement. >> the count down is midnight. the start of a new year. >> we are going over the cliff because frankly i believe it's what the president wants. >> the american people are waiting for the ball to drop, but it's not going to be a good drop. >> but we have no takers. >> every republican, every democrat ought to be here. >> the phone never raining....
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on obama care. there's no way these guys are going to come to a deal, and the reason is this. the president has got the upper hand, and his most important partner is the weakest person in this, which is john boehner. john boehner is on the verge of losing credibility with his caucus. he can't take a deal to his caucus that will pass without the help of nancy pelosi, which will pull the entire deal to the left. so what they have to do is they have to go over the cliff. we're just talking about politics, we're not talking about finances here. they have to go over the cliff. that strengthens boehner's hands because now everybody is paying a hell of a lot more taxes and people are blaming the republicans, and now boehner can go to the caucus and maybe get 200 and a few votes and then with nancy pelosi pick off a few democrats and make some kind of deal. having said that, the best thing for the country is never to come to a deal because ed rendell is right. as a former governor, we don't operate with big
on obama care. there's no way these guys are going to come to a deal, and the reason is this. the president has got the upper hand, and his most important partner is the weakest person in this, which is john boehner. john boehner is on the verge of losing credibility with his caucus. he can't take a deal to his caucus that will pass without the help of nancy pelosi, which will pull the entire deal to the left. so what they have to do is they have to go over the cliff. we're just talking about...
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a deal. senate leaders stepped in to get a compromise before tomorrow's deadline. today they announced they have hit a wall. >> even if lawmakers are not running out of ideas, they are running out of time. the prospects of a fiscal cliff plunge look closer than ever today when senate talks ground to a standstill. >> i am willing to get this done. i needed dance partner. >> republicans demanded social security cuts. democrats called that a deal killer. the gop to get off the table. the deadline is monday at midnight. if no deal, taxes go up on nine out of 10 americans. potentially catastrophic spending cuts start kicking in. lawmakers spent much of the day behind closed doors plotting strategy. president obama blamed the impasse on republicans. >> the way they are behaving is there on the priority is making sure the tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> on sunday, the president talked about his plan b. he wants the senate to vote on extending tax cuts to everyone but the ri
a deal. senate leaders stepped in to get a compromise before tomorrow's deadline. today they announced they have hit a wall. >> even if lawmakers are not running out of ideas, they are running out of time. the prospects of a fiscal cliff plunge look closer than ever today when senate talks ground to a standstill. >> i am willing to get this done. i needed dance partner. >> republicans demanded social security cuts. democrats called that a deal killer. the gop to get off the...
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many blame president obama for the collapse of a bigger deal that would reduce spending and cut the country's debt. >> it is the president's responsibility to lay out a plan and to bring people together. >> house members don't get back here tonight sunday night. >>> president david wilson may be getting a remove of sorts after a lengthy public meeting months announced it is negotiating to keep him on until june 2014. his current contract expires in june of 2013. it was a rough year with two shootings on campus. >>> the russian president signed a law banning americans from adopting russian children. a law that people say is heartbreaking and punishes no one but the children. one family says he just signed a death notice for thousands of orphans in his country. >> reporter: you may have heard of her, she won three gold medals and a bronze in this past summer's paraolympic games in london. reaching goals she would have never reached if she had not been adopted at age 6 by her mother deborah. >> she did not have a wheelchair. she crawled on the floor. she was very anemic and was not expected to l
many blame president obama for the collapse of a bigger deal that would reduce spending and cut the country's debt. >> it is the president's responsibility to lay out a plan and to bring people together. >> house members don't get back here tonight sunday night. >>> president david wilson may be getting a remove of sorts after a lengthy public meeting months announced it is negotiating to keep him on until june 2014. his current contract expires in june of 2013. it was a...
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what do you make of president obama, the negotiator? there has been a lot of criticism from the left, frankly, that he gave too much to republicans as this part of the deal. he's showing them when his back is up against the wall, he will gave. 250,000 was his limit all along, what is he like as a negotiator? your thoughts? >> i don't think that is a fair criticism. there this is give and take, there are some on the left for who any give at all is a failed negotiation. the president is politically the big winner here. he got what he wanted with the tax cuts. he got what he wanted with the estate tax and other issues and the sequester delay. so i just think that the president working with senator mcconnell, who did a very good job with his conference in the senate, that they all look good. we have to see if we can do our job in the house. that's still to come today. >> congressman, thank you very much. happy new year and good luck going forward. >> i appreciate it. thank you. >>> coming up, the senate agrees to the fiscal cliff deal, but
what do you make of president obama, the negotiator? there has been a lot of criticism from the left, frankly, that he gave too much to republicans as this part of the deal. he's showing them when his back is up against the wall, he will gave. 250,000 was his limit all along, what is he like as a negotiator? your thoughts? >> i don't think that is a fair criticism. there this is give and take, there are some on the left for who any give at all is a failed negotiation. the president is...
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and the majority leader to come up with a deal to troy to avoid falling over the fiscal cliff. want to bring in brian monroe, editor of cnn politics.com from san antonio, texas. brian, we all know what's at stake, especially that immediate 2% payroll tax increase in everyone's first paycheck of the year. it seems that the president used his bully pulpit to strongly encourage senators to get to work by sending a not so veiled message to themand their constituents. let's listen. >> the american people are watching what we do here. obviously, their patience is already thin. this is deja vu all over again. america wonders why it is that in this town for some reason, you can't get stuff done in an organized timetable. why everything always has to wait till the last minute. we're now at the last minute. and the american people are not going to have any patience for a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. not right now. the economy's growing. but sustaining that trend is going to require elected officials to do their jobs. >> o'brien, as we mentioned, you're there deep in t
and the majority leader to come up with a deal to troy to avoid falling over the fiscal cliff. want to bring in brian monroe, editor of cnn politics.com from san antonio, texas. brian, we all know what's at stake, especially that immediate 2% payroll tax increase in everyone's first paycheck of the year. it seems that the president used his bully pulpit to strongly encourage senators to get to work by sending a not so veiled message to themand their constituents. let's listen. >> the...
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. >>> president barack obama is hoping to reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff and he left his vacation. we will look at the new offer and the concessions he is proposing. >>> let's go back outside with alex savage. >> reporter: they have finally been able to locate the problem right under where those crews are working and they have had to dig up quite a bit of sidewalk to figure out where the leak was coming from but crews say they are running a bypass around the broken line. off to the left, the people were evacuated as a precaution. everything began when neighbors reported the smell of gas in this area. people here were ordered to shelter in place in their homes for a time and early on, he was certainly going to face explosion. >> if something goes off or ignites, i am only a couple of doors down from where the leak is so it is frightening. >> the source of the leak has been found. the repair work, it will be difficult for she people to go back home and with the exception of the three homes evacuated, gas does remain on for the entire area of brentwood. brentwood sal legs savage ktvu
. >>> president barack obama is hoping to reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff and he left his vacation. we will look at the new offer and the concessions he is proposing. >>> let's go back outside with alex savage. >> reporter: they have finally been able to locate the problem right under where those crews are working and they have had to dig up quite a bit of sidewalk to figure out where the leak was coming from but crews say they are running a bypass around the...
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so obama -- as the one guy in this town that wants a deal more than anyone. on the other hand, he's probably the guy that purely political benefits the most after january 3rd satisfy in a stronger negotiating position. he'll also have, remember, a few more democrats in the house and in the senate. so the white house will be strengthened after this happens. but a lot of people in the white house and treasury department don't want that to happen because they think the markets may freak out. already the markets are reacting to the news within the last hour. yesterday the markets dipped a little bit on reid's comments in the senate. so they are worried about the economy. i think purely politically, obama will be strengthened once we go over. >> ryan lizza, thank very much. it's going to be an interesting couple of days. >> yeah, it sure is. >> thanks, ryan. >>> weapons of war on the streets of los angeles. details of a shocking find in a gun buyback program. [ sniffs ] i have a cold. [ sniffs ] i took dayquil but my nose is still runny. [ male announcer ] truth i
so obama -- as the one guy in this town that wants a deal more than anyone. on the other hand, he's probably the guy that purely political benefits the most after january 3rd satisfy in a stronger negotiating position. he'll also have, remember, a few more democrats in the house and in the senate. so the white house will be strengthened after this happens. but a lot of people in the white house and treasury department don't want that to happen because they think the markets may freak out....
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a deal. we think to the budget and debt ceiling debacle. neither john boehner and to some degree mitch mcconnell have the ability to go back to their caucuses and get them to rally behind a deal they make. has that changed or does this change as we get closer to the deadline? >> i think it will change closer to the deadline. it will require the leaders to talk to their caucuses and talk to these individual members of the senate and the house of representatives and understanding and underscoring the peril we place in the country at this moment in time and that we have to resolve these issues. american people should not count on a stalemate. we're here to do our jobs in washington and we're seeing this failure demonstrated time and again because of ideological and political and philosophical stubbornness. what about the entire country? what about the good of the country? that's what's at stake for america, and i think that members of congress individually and collectively are responsible and th
a deal. we think to the budget and debt ceiling debacle. neither john boehner and to some degree mitch mcconnell have the ability to go back to their caucuses and get them to rally behind a deal they make. has that changed or does this change as we get closer to the deadline? >> i think it will change closer to the deadline. it will require the leaders to talk to their caucuses and talk to these individual members of the senate and the house of representatives and understanding and...
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obama care, they've got nothing out of it so they feel they will be hung out to dry if they do a deal. >> you know, there are so many pots and plans clattering around the chamber and what bothers me he is the lopsidedness of the debate. how about the g.o.p. for decades never said we are the ones delivering the middle class tax cuts. these are middle class tax rates that were enacted undergeorge w. bush. we own these for the middle class, not the democrats. why isn't the g.o.p. stepping up for that. >> i guess because they have no historical memory, a democrat hasn't done this since jfk. back in the early 1960's. and he got a huge amount of protest. >> clinton lowered the capital gains tax and because of that a huge boom in the stock market. >> the tax cuts barely passed at the early part of 2000. why didn't they make them permanent and we could have avoid this had kind of discussion? >> tax policies extremely difficult. they put it through the so-called reconciliation process, which doesn't require 60 votes. reconciliation laws, sunset after ten years, they're not permanent and that's
obama care, they've got nothing out of it so they feel they will be hung out to dry if they do a deal. >> you know, there are so many pots and plans clattering around the chamber and what bothers me he is the lopsidedness of the debate. how about the g.o.p. for decades never said we are the ones delivering the middle class tax cuts. these are middle class tax rates that were enacted undergeorge w. bush. we own these for the middle class, not the democrats. why isn't the g.o.p. stepping up...
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they could have taken a deal, could have take an deal in the summer of 2011 which would have been more favorable to them. they didn't do either. >> if obama is coming out and from what we're hearing he's not making a real offer. he's coming out with $250,000 staying with what he had before christmas. he's playing hardball. if he came out and was talking about a $40,000 tlshg hold, we could say these parties may be close to promise but i don't see that right now. >> we're getting breaking news that the president will make a statement at 5:45 in the briefing room so we'll stay tuned for that. robert, help me out here. how can boehner stay as speaker when it seems like his knees get cut out from him every day? >> is there some dissension within the house republican ranks, richard? sure. to really challenge boehner, you have to have a challenger and there are a lot of people in the house republican conference who are frustrated with the speaker, but they're not willing to run against him. you have big names like eric cantor and kevin mccarthy, number two and three, they're not even making
they could have taken a deal, could have take an deal in the summer of 2011 which would have been more favorable to them. they didn't do either. >> if obama is coming out and from what we're hearing he's not making a real offer. he's coming out with $250,000 staying with what he had before christmas. he's playing hardball. if he came out and was talking about a $40,000 tlshg hold, we could say these parties may be close to promise but i don't see that right now. >> we're getting...
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now only four days left and no deal in sight. that could change today, when president obama holds a meeting with all four congressional leader at the white house. we're not saying you should bet on it. let's bring in ron brownstein for "the national journal." >> good morning. >> good morning. we're talking about this whole idea of a fiscal cliff was absolutely not supposed to happen. >> this was a machine that the two sides built to give guy them more will power to do what they didn't want to do to begin with. which is compromise. they could not reach a deal to destabilize the federal government's long-term finances so they built this to put more pressure on themselves to reach a deal now. and even this does not seem to be enough to do it, to force them to make the difficult concessions that are required for the two sides to come together this is indignant of a broader problem we face of a red coalition and blue coalition that reflect very different visions of american and show less and less cooperation. we are looking at a divid
now only four days left and no deal in sight. that could change today, when president obama holds a meeting with all four congressional leader at the white house. we're not saying you should bet on it. let's bring in ron brownstein for "the national journal." >> good morning. >> good morning. we're talking about this whole idea of a fiscal cliff was absolutely not supposed to happen. >> this was a machine that the two sides built to give guy them more will power to...
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why some insiders think a deal will >>> president obama and senate leaders tomorrow head back to washington to try to reach a last minute deal, before historic tax increases go into effect next week. why some believe we will head over the fiscal cliff before washington takes action. >> reporter: the halls of power empty, although negotiators and the president are back at work. >> at the very least, let's agree right now on what we already agree on. >> reporter: an olive branch to the gop, and carrot to corporate giants. the administration now suggesting cutting corporate tax rates. the u.s. has among the world's highest. but closing loopholes that helped google, for instance, avoid $2 billion in taxes last year. >> corporations are a little concerned. >> reporter: gary is optimistic about a deal. >> i'd still rate it better than 50/50. >> reporter: what seems increasingly likely is to allow the country to go over that fiscal cliff, triggering higher taxes. that would allow hard line republicans to vote for lower taxes, a few days later. >> to make them look better? to appease voters. if tha
why some insiders think a deal will >>> president obama and senate leaders tomorrow head back to washington to try to reach a last minute deal, before historic tax increases go into effect next week. why some believe we will head over the fiscal cliff before washington takes action. >> reporter: the halls of power empty, although negotiators and the president are back at work. >> at the very least, let's agree right now on what we already agree on. >> reporter: an...
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christmas vacation is ending for president barack obama and they are working on getting a deal on the table. president barack obama is leaving hawaii and he will be back to negotiate with lawmakers. >>> people are still without power in oakland after a car crash. they hit each other before running into a utility pole off of interstate 580. at one point power was knocked out to 6800 page customers. police are still looking for the person who ran from the scene. >>> the day after christmas is known as the busiest day of the year. retailers are hoping to boost their bottom line before year's end. >>> and they are going back to work and urging drivers to proceed with caution the morning after christmas. from last night's storm there has been more showers maybe even a little hail and lorraine blanco has more with how things look out there, lorraine? >>> we have been live in oakland and the rain has been on and off and there is a light drizzle out here. you can see the bay bridge toll plaza and the roadways are slick but it is not affecting traffic so far. here is a look at the hayward airp
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if he starts talking about solutions and this is important for the country, maybe a deal is in the works. >> harry reid took to the floor with strong words, we know mcconnell will do the same thing. >> we are, mcconned said our number one goal is to defeat president obama. in november the american people said very clearly they want people to work it. this is proving that at least when it comes to congressional republicans, the answer is know. great to see all three of you, thank you. >>> president george h.w. wish takes a turn for the worse, but doctors are still optimistic. >>> then hundreds of teachers sign up for free gun training in utah, and arizona's attorney general wants to arm school employees. the reverend al sharpton will join me to talk about his efforts to curb gun violence. should teachers be allowed to carry concealed weapons at school? tweet me or find me on facebook. sometimes what we suffer from is bigger than we think ... like the flu. with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big deal. so why treat it like it's a little cold? there's something that works differ
if he starts talking about solutions and this is important for the country, maybe a deal is in the works. >> harry reid took to the floor with strong words, we know mcconnell will do the same thing. >> we are, mcconned said our number one goal is to defeat president obama. in november the american people said very clearly they want people to work it. this is proving that at least when it comes to congressional republicans, the answer is know. great to see all three of you, thank...
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lawmakers are getting more skeptical that congress and president obama can reach a deal. a big drop for stocks on friday. it is costing you last to get to grandma's house. gasoline prices have dropped to the lowest level in years. prices could rise as much as 10% a gallon over the next few days. engineers said motorola working on a top-secret device. featured is a bendable screen. google is looking to release this some time next year. i am ellen braitman with the bloomberg business report. >> 5:23. a teenager riding the holidays for her community. >> don't forget to e-mail us your response to our water cooler question of the day. how will you be spending christmas? you can share your response at wbaltv.com and on our facebook page, or send us an e-mail to watercooler@wbaltv.com. >> the girl is spreading some holiday cheer to some families in carroll county. >> this 16-year-old is busy wrapping christmas presents for low-income families in carroll county that have children with chronic illnesses. >> i like working with kids and i want to be a nurse. it is nice to be able t
lawmakers are getting more skeptical that congress and president obama can reach a deal. a big drop for stocks on friday. it is costing you last to get to grandma's house. gasoline prices have dropped to the lowest level in years. prices could rise as much as 10% a gallon over the next few days. engineers said motorola working on a top-secret device. featured is a bendable screen. google is looking to release this some time next year. i am ellen braitman with the bloomberg business report....
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. >>> reporter: in what's seen as a last-minute attempt to reach a deal, president obama meets at the white house with senate majority leader harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and house speaker john boehner. they have only four days to reach an agreement or the u.s. economy will go off the so- called "fiscal cliff." that's when automatic spending increases and cuts would take effect. reaching a deal won't be easy because both sides are involved in a high stakes political blame game. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> i told the president we would be happy to look at wah he proposes but the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline and as i said this is a conversation we should have had months ago. >> reporter: democrats want to extend the bush-era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making $250,000 or more a year. many republicans are again
. >>> reporter: in what's seen as a last-minute attempt to reach a deal, president obama meets at the white house with senate majority leader harry reid, house minority leader nancy pelosi, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and house speaker john boehner. they have only four days to reach an agreement or the u.s. economy will go off the so- called "fiscal cliff." that's when automatic spending increases and cuts would take effect. reaching a deal won't be easy because...
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and a lot of liberals are arguing that obama caved and they don't like the deal that he negotiated and they might say, you know what, we're already over the cliff. let's wait for the new congress to get in the house. we'll start over. so this is pretty bad news if you think from the perspective of wanting a deal before thursday. >> if they start all over again, they could do it within a few days and my experience in washington, the longer you wait on a deal like, this the more complicated potentially you could get. >> they can't let us continue on the fiscal -- we've gone over the fiscal cliff. >> unemployment could go from 7.75% to 7.95%. >> the white house tried to do a grand bargain with boehner and revenue piece that's been kicked back to the house and the house is saying, forget it, forget it, we want these spending cuts, too. so everyone has to be in a room negotiating this thing. >> ryan, thank you. >>> the vice president joe biden has just weighed in on the confusion in the house of representatives. what is he saying? stand by. jessica yellin is over at the white house. 315 hor
and a lot of liberals are arguing that obama caved and they don't like the deal that he negotiated and they might say, you know what, we're already over the cliff. let's wait for the new congress to get in the house. we'll start over. so this is pretty bad news if you think from the perspective of wanting a deal before thursday. >> if they start all over again, they could do it within a few days and my experience in washington, the longer you wait on a deal like, this the more complicated...